I%26#039;ve thought about taking boxing classes, or some form of martial arts, but both require close to a year of practice before I could use them to defend myself. Is that true? What form of self-defense could I use effectively, that wouldn%26#039;t take years to learn? What form of defense is best for a woman who needs to protect herself from a man? Thanks|||THE BEST THING TO TAKE IS A SELF DEFENSE CLASS, I DID WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE LAST YEAR, BUY THE WAY I AM 44 YRS. I LEARNED A LOT OF STUFF, IT WAS FOR TWO HOURS ONCE A WEEK FOR 5 WEEKS, NIGHT TIME. IT WAS PROVIDED BY MY LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT. CALL YOUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A SELF DEFENSE CLASS FOR WOMEN. IT WAS SO MUCH FUN, ON THE LAST DAY OF THE CLASS WE PUT ON THESE RUBBER HELMETS KNEE PADS AND RUBBER GLOVES, AND WE GET TO BEAT TWO POLICE MAN UP, ONE OF THE POLICE MAN SAID THAT I HIT HIM A LITTLE TO HARD, BUT IT WAS SO FUN. CALL THEM AND SEE IF THEY HAVE SELF DEFENSE CLASSES. YOU WON%26#039;T REGRET IT, BELIEVE ME.|||I think the coolest thing in the world would be a woman defending herself with an extendible baton which would appear out of no-where like her sleeve or the side of her leg. Those things are easy. Kicking at the groin is also quite simple.
Defense throws to trick and confuse attackers would be good, too.|||How about a swift kick in the balls. That is easy to learn and very effective. It works on females as well.|||Jiu Jitsu is your best bet, (I believe it%26#039;s spellt like that) is based on self defense and how to defend yourself, and the techniques are all simple that most everyone can learn, and in a short period of time to learn the basics (which would probably be all you would need in your case)|||good u r thinking of this. i dont know which self defense program would be best at providing you w/ techniques that will work quick, but i can recommend an excellent book that you will thank yourself for for reading it. it was written by a man who was a councelor for abusive men who had to go to court appointed counceling. this man has heard it all. the name of the book is %26quot;Why does he do that? Inside the minds of angry and controlling men.%26quot; by Lundy Bancroft. it actually offers insight into why they do what they do and how they rope you in to give in to them even tho you know you shouldnt. this book could actually help your life choices and reduce the amount of time thinking, how could he do that, why did he do that etc. you will have answers. wish i could suggest a physical defense plan for you, but this is an Excellent emotional defense plan for sure!!!! best to you!|||You can get your conceal/carry permit in a one day class.
Friday, November 18, 2011
Would a wooden or aluminum baseball bat be my best option for self defense?
I want to have a nonlethal weapon for self defense purposes and have heard that baseball bats work quite well. Now my decision gets tougher, should I go with wood or aluminum? My gut tells me wood would bring the perpetrator to his knees more quickly but the aluminum would probably allow more bat speed.
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.|||I%26#039;d go with a wood bat with a few screws in it so it cuts cuts em up when hit em.|||Aluminum is lighter, and virtually impossible to break, on the other hand, if you go with wood, you could always nail screws in upside down to it, but then you might have a hard time pulling it out of them in between swings.|||I%26#039;m kind of %26quot;old school%26quot; on this issue, I prefer the wooden %26quot;thud%26quot; to that ringing sound from a metal bat. Or perhaps a hickory axe handle would be better.|||A bat would work great...if there%26#039;s only one of them, and they don%26#039;t have weapons of their own.
Suck it up and buy a guy. You%26#039;ll be safer.|||Don%26#039;t forget the glove and some balls. If you just have the bat it is a weapon and can be charged with a felony. Crazy Ca. laws. Get the biggest mag light you can find.|||just use the butt of your shotgun. Carrying around both a shotgun and a baseball bat until you have determined whether your attacker is armed or not seems impractical|||Aluminum. A wood bat will break over a liberal head whereas the aluminum will just dent.|||Don%26#039;t bring a bat to a gun fight. Sure fire way to get killed.|||If you are a traditionalist, go with wood. Also, do you you want to hear a %26#039;crack%26#039; or a %26#039;ping%26#039;. These are important choices you need to make.|||Rock Island Armory 1911 .45 cal would do the trick cause the last time I looked bats didn%26#039;t stop bullets
I think the 200 bucks more is worth the money don%26#039;t ya think?|||A bat might work if they throw you a fastball. On the other hand if they are carrying 9mm you might want something else.|||myself, i prefer the%26quot;ping%26quot; factor of the aluminum, to the %26quot;thud%26quot; of the wooden~!!!|||I%26#039;d go with the wood bat.|||That or a gun with blanks, scares the crap out of burglars.|||Either one would hurt but aluminum won%26#039;t break as easy.The upside to breaking is now you have a wooden stake should it be needed next|||Nothing better for home defense than a 12 Gage pump shotgun. Preferably with a pistol grip and 18 inch barrel. Nothing sends fear into an intruder like the sound of a pump shotgun sliding in a new shell.|||I%26#039;m thinking wood.
Aluminum bats are hollow and yeah...they would hurt...but solid wood is really going to take somebody out.|||You can get more swings per minute with an aluminum. But a wooden bat would take care of business in half the whacks.|||HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND !!
I SERIOUSLY HOPE AND PRAY YOU DON%26#039;T HAVE OTHERS, (IE; A FAMILY) THAT ARE DEPENDING ON YOU FOR THEIR PROTECTION AND SAFETY !!
Several years ago a young bad guy wanna be decided to break and enter a home where a mother and her two young daughters were sleeping @ 3 am. What he found was calm, deliberate, and VERY WILLING father with a .45 ACP.
He was immediately %26quot;rehabilitated%26quot;. He will NEVER, EVER, break into another home, YOUR HOME again.
Get a clue!|||That%26#039;s a good way to get a jail sentence for assault with a deadly weapon. If you carry around a baseball bat and hit someone with it you can%26#039;t argue self defense because you could have gone home to avoid the situation. Carry pepper spray instead.|||either would do the trick, you should just get a BB gun?
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.|||I%26#039;d go with a wood bat with a few screws in it so it cuts cuts em up when hit em.|||Aluminum is lighter, and virtually impossible to break, on the other hand, if you go with wood, you could always nail screws in upside down to it, but then you might have a hard time pulling it out of them in between swings.|||I%26#039;m kind of %26quot;old school%26quot; on this issue, I prefer the wooden %26quot;thud%26quot; to that ringing sound from a metal bat. Or perhaps a hickory axe handle would be better.|||A bat would work great...if there%26#039;s only one of them, and they don%26#039;t have weapons of their own.
Suck it up and buy a guy. You%26#039;ll be safer.|||Don%26#039;t forget the glove and some balls. If you just have the bat it is a weapon and can be charged with a felony. Crazy Ca. laws. Get the biggest mag light you can find.|||just use the butt of your shotgun. Carrying around both a shotgun and a baseball bat until you have determined whether your attacker is armed or not seems impractical|||Aluminum. A wood bat will break over a liberal head whereas the aluminum will just dent.|||Don%26#039;t bring a bat to a gun fight. Sure fire way to get killed.|||If you are a traditionalist, go with wood. Also, do you you want to hear a %26#039;crack%26#039; or a %26#039;ping%26#039;. These are important choices you need to make.|||Rock Island Armory 1911 .45 cal would do the trick cause the last time I looked bats didn%26#039;t stop bullets
I think the 200 bucks more is worth the money don%26#039;t ya think?|||A bat might work if they throw you a fastball. On the other hand if they are carrying 9mm you might want something else.|||myself, i prefer the%26quot;ping%26quot; factor of the aluminum, to the %26quot;thud%26quot; of the wooden~!!!|||I%26#039;d go with the wood bat.|||That or a gun with blanks, scares the crap out of burglars.|||Either one would hurt but aluminum won%26#039;t break as easy.The upside to breaking is now you have a wooden stake should it be needed next|||Nothing better for home defense than a 12 Gage pump shotgun. Preferably with a pistol grip and 18 inch barrel. Nothing sends fear into an intruder like the sound of a pump shotgun sliding in a new shell.|||I%26#039;m thinking wood.
Aluminum bats are hollow and yeah...they would hurt...but solid wood is really going to take somebody out.|||You can get more swings per minute with an aluminum. But a wooden bat would take care of business in half the whacks.|||HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND !!
I SERIOUSLY HOPE AND PRAY YOU DON%26#039;T HAVE OTHERS, (IE; A FAMILY) THAT ARE DEPENDING ON YOU FOR THEIR PROTECTION AND SAFETY !!
Several years ago a young bad guy wanna be decided to break and enter a home where a mother and her two young daughters were sleeping @ 3 am. What he found was calm, deliberate, and VERY WILLING father with a .45 ACP.
He was immediately %26quot;rehabilitated%26quot;. He will NEVER, EVER, break into another home, YOUR HOME again.
Get a clue!|||That%26#039;s a good way to get a jail sentence for assault with a deadly weapon. If you carry around a baseball bat and hit someone with it you can%26#039;t argue self defense because you could have gone home to avoid the situation. Carry pepper spray instead.|||either would do the trick, you should just get a BB gun?
Can a person own 2 self defense guns in South Africa?
With all these new gun laws in south africa, I would like to know if one can own 2 self defense weapons?|||the best way to get an answer would be to go to government printers in pretoria and order a copy of the firearms act, the new laws require gun owners to re apply for new licenses, since the passing of this law only about 15000 applications have been approved for re licensing and none for new license`s. the NRA in USA have a good quote %26quot;if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns%26quot; |||Actually under law you can have up to three,and one offensive weapon for hunting
Is running away after killing someone for self-defense legal?
Is running away after killing someone for self-defense legal? We are doing a mock trial in our class on the Outsiders and I was wondering if you just killed someone for self-defense, can you run away because you were too scared, or is there a law preventing this. If you know details, this takes place in California. |||NO is it legal to ask such silly questions?|||Can%26#039;t answer for Calif. But I am in Arizona and this happened in my family in April.
An in-laws boyfriend was shot point blank (killed him) by someone. The BF was backing down the young man with a knife (for about 60 yards). The shooter ran (along with my son in law, his brother, and my godson and his friend) He was caught and charged with second degree murder, but after investigation, the charges were dropped.
He did get in trouble for having an unregistered gun, and an old probation violation. (not sure where the gun came from)
|||In self-defense cases, the jury is instructed to put themselves in the place of the person who committed the homicide and then determine what a reasonable person would have done %26quot;under the circumstances.%26quot; If you can show that the defendant acted reasonably, the self-defense justification for murder should stand. |||It is illegal because the killing was not a justified homicide. If you run then you committed a crime. If your scared then run to the police dept. and turn yourself in. Only then would you not be a criminal who killed in self defense. If that%26#039;s really what happened.|||It%26#039;s called, %26quot;fugitive.%26quot; Self-defense or not, he/she must still be held accountable in a court of law for taking the life of another. It%26#039;s up to the law to decide to what degree.|||I%26#039;m not sure if it is legal, but if you do it it makes you look very gulity. I think its legal, its just harder to prove innocence.|||i love the Outsiders.
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An in-laws boyfriend was shot point blank (killed him) by someone. The BF was backing down the young man with a knife (for about 60 yards). The shooter ran (along with my son in law, his brother, and my godson and his friend) He was caught and charged with second degree murder, but after investigation, the charges were dropped.
He did get in trouble for having an unregistered gun, and an old probation violation. (not sure where the gun came from)
|||In self-defense cases, the jury is instructed to put themselves in the place of the person who committed the homicide and then determine what a reasonable person would have done %26quot;under the circumstances.%26quot; If you can show that the defendant acted reasonably, the self-defense justification for murder should stand. |||It is illegal because the killing was not a justified homicide. If you run then you committed a crime. If your scared then run to the police dept. and turn yourself in. Only then would you not be a criminal who killed in self defense. If that%26#039;s really what happened.|||It%26#039;s called, %26quot;fugitive.%26quot; Self-defense or not, he/she must still be held accountable in a court of law for taking the life of another. It%26#039;s up to the law to decide to what degree.|||I%26#039;m not sure if it is legal, but if you do it it makes you look very gulity. I think its legal, its just harder to prove innocence.|||i love the Outsiders.
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What type of self defense ammunition?
What type of round should I get for a 9mm to be used as self defense? I know everyone says hollow points but which exactly. Any suggestions/links would be helpful. Also if i plan on using one type of round for self defense would it be essential to practice with that exact round, or would just the same weight suffice.|||a good test for defensive shooting.... 7 yards, 9x11 blank paper target.
when you can put all rounds on the paper ...one shot after the other... that is a pretty good start for what it takes to be a good defensive shooter. Practice with ball ... load the premium stuff for carry
I shoot about a box of my duty load over the course of the year...a mag or so to finish out each practice session.
Most 9mm are ramped so they will fire hollow points and ball ammo without problems... but I would test whatever ammo you choose to make sure it functions in your pistol correctly
most folks say that 9mm ...115-125 grain hollow points will have the best perfomance on human targets. Look up a book by Evan Marshall... he has compliled reasearch regarding one shot stops and actuall police department shooting using all popular ammo used over the years.
Remington golden sabers.. Winchester offers a JHP.. Hornady...most can be found at Walmart or a good sporting goods-gun shop.|||There are several brands that make decent defense rounds for the 9mm. For personal defense, I would strongly recommend sticking with a hollowpoint of some kind. Pistols in general are not really great at stopping someone dead in their tracks. Hollowpoints add some to the stopping power by creating a larger permanant and temporary wound cavity. The more trauma caused to the assailant, the less likely it is that they will continue to remain a serious threat. But remember that even persons who have been hit several times with well-placed shots, have been able to continue to fight. So seldom is a lethal force encounter ended with the first shot unless the head or spinal cord is hit. With all that said, there are several manufacturers that make reliable HP ammo for self defense. Hornady TAP ammo is decent as is Federal%26#039;s Personal Defense. Cor-Bon HP%26#039;s are always good as are the Winchester Ranger and Federal Hydra-shok. These brands have proven to give reliable expansion under various conditions.
Also, most brands have a web sight that will give you a %26quot;ballisically similar%26quot; list of rounds, if you want to practice. The bullet grain may be different, but %26quot;ballistically similar%26quot; rounds will impact in the same place as your defense rounds.|||I have carried concealed in Maine, Massachussettes and Alaska for 25+ years.
You need to put 350-400 rounds through your pistol with the ammo of your choice for it to be considered %26#039;ok%26#039; for self defense. This is the gold standard.
Full metal jacketed ammo is the most reliable in an auto pistol. It%26#039;s cheap. Glaser Safety Slugs are the Best for self protection in an apartment or home - but - at $2 each only the rich or somone in law enforcement with a big ammo budget can afford the $800 in ammo to cycle test each pistol. Although hollow points are cheaper than the Glaser - they have a blunt profile than can sacrafice reliability. You need to be darn sure that the improved design will fuction well in your defensive pistol.
Consider this. It is much better to get a good solid hit, and follow up hit, with a standard bullet than a jam or misfire with the pefect bullet.
What you can do is cycle 35-400 rounds of standard ammo and gain some practice. After that start to shoot a 25rd or 50 round box of %26#039;Self Defense%26#039; ammo in the gun. When you get to 350-400 in a year or so with the more improved ammo - then move to that. but - only if you were able to get that improved ammo to function flawlessly.
Hope this helps|||what else is there to do the job, you asked? Nothing is better than a good hollow-point.
what you want is good expansion, good penetration, large wound cavity and (most important) reliability! a LOT of hollow points plug up with clothing and do not expand at all or very little, especially when being fired through a jacket or thick clothes. search for ammo tests with clothing, you%26#039;ll be shocked!
the best round that has the least compromise is the corbon Pow%26#039;RBall! it has a soft plastic ball protecting the hollow cavity that almost guarantees great expansion every time, even through thick clothing. the ball also increases feeding reliability in picky guns.
don%26#039;t get too carried away with gel-tests because shooting jello is a lot different than shooting a clothed human with bones inside.
also, hornady will be coming out with a similar product so keep your eyes peeled. they already have it in .380 and that%26#039;s what i carry in my little kel-tec!|||Go here for some ballistics data and pictures and ammunition sales.
http://www.topglock.com/category/1644-Am...
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I run MagSafe JHP 84 Gr in my Glock23(.40cal), they cost around $2 per round.
But Ive ALSO shot ALOT of Lawman FMJ 165Gr ammo, and it fires AWESOME at the range, NEVER a single jam, fires hard but fires smooth....i can feel how perfect it shoots.(V.S. other brands and types)
So if I dont have my JHP homedefense rounds in the gun, I got the Lawman Training ammo....since I KNOW FOR SURE it will fire....and if I somehow miss my target, the muzzleflame will surely give them a heart attack.
9mm is good for penetration and accuracy, but its NOT generally an acceptable stopping round by most police departments,FBI etc,......
They DO make some good rounds for the 9mm, but you need to know what those are..(i dont, since i dont shoot 9mm, I just heard from some people)
If you want stopping power for a pistol, you Atleast want a .40 caliber pistol. Ive run ballistic test myself in the field, and it has incredible penetration and power at close range, and usually has MORE chamber pressure than a .45 caliber.
(well atleast in the Glocks)
Check out that website.|||Hydrashok
http://www.hydrashok.com/news.php|||Hornady TAP FPD|||not to be condescending , but 9mm hollow points , or you could buy just regular 9mm and make a x it the tip , close to the same result, a bigger hole in them.|||As far as I know it%26#039;s only one type of hollow pint for 9mm I don%26#039;t know.
when you can put all rounds on the paper ...one shot after the other... that is a pretty good start for what it takes to be a good defensive shooter. Practice with ball ... load the premium stuff for carry
I shoot about a box of my duty load over the course of the year...a mag or so to finish out each practice session.
Most 9mm are ramped so they will fire hollow points and ball ammo without problems... but I would test whatever ammo you choose to make sure it functions in your pistol correctly
most folks say that 9mm ...115-125 grain hollow points will have the best perfomance on human targets. Look up a book by Evan Marshall... he has compliled reasearch regarding one shot stops and actuall police department shooting using all popular ammo used over the years.
Remington golden sabers.. Winchester offers a JHP.. Hornady...most can be found at Walmart or a good sporting goods-gun shop.|||There are several brands that make decent defense rounds for the 9mm. For personal defense, I would strongly recommend sticking with a hollowpoint of some kind. Pistols in general are not really great at stopping someone dead in their tracks. Hollowpoints add some to the stopping power by creating a larger permanant and temporary wound cavity. The more trauma caused to the assailant, the less likely it is that they will continue to remain a serious threat. But remember that even persons who have been hit several times with well-placed shots, have been able to continue to fight. So seldom is a lethal force encounter ended with the first shot unless the head or spinal cord is hit. With all that said, there are several manufacturers that make reliable HP ammo for self defense. Hornady TAP ammo is decent as is Federal%26#039;s Personal Defense. Cor-Bon HP%26#039;s are always good as are the Winchester Ranger and Federal Hydra-shok. These brands have proven to give reliable expansion under various conditions.
Also, most brands have a web sight that will give you a %26quot;ballisically similar%26quot; list of rounds, if you want to practice. The bullet grain may be different, but %26quot;ballistically similar%26quot; rounds will impact in the same place as your defense rounds.|||I have carried concealed in Maine, Massachussettes and Alaska for 25+ years.
You need to put 350-400 rounds through your pistol with the ammo of your choice for it to be considered %26#039;ok%26#039; for self defense. This is the gold standard.
Full metal jacketed ammo is the most reliable in an auto pistol. It%26#039;s cheap. Glaser Safety Slugs are the Best for self protection in an apartment or home - but - at $2 each only the rich or somone in law enforcement with a big ammo budget can afford the $800 in ammo to cycle test each pistol. Although hollow points are cheaper than the Glaser - they have a blunt profile than can sacrafice reliability. You need to be darn sure that the improved design will fuction well in your defensive pistol.
Consider this. It is much better to get a good solid hit, and follow up hit, with a standard bullet than a jam or misfire with the pefect bullet.
What you can do is cycle 35-400 rounds of standard ammo and gain some practice. After that start to shoot a 25rd or 50 round box of %26#039;Self Defense%26#039; ammo in the gun. When you get to 350-400 in a year or so with the more improved ammo - then move to that. but - only if you were able to get that improved ammo to function flawlessly.
Hope this helps|||what else is there to do the job, you asked? Nothing is better than a good hollow-point.
what you want is good expansion, good penetration, large wound cavity and (most important) reliability! a LOT of hollow points plug up with clothing and do not expand at all or very little, especially when being fired through a jacket or thick clothes. search for ammo tests with clothing, you%26#039;ll be shocked!
the best round that has the least compromise is the corbon Pow%26#039;RBall! it has a soft plastic ball protecting the hollow cavity that almost guarantees great expansion every time, even through thick clothing. the ball also increases feeding reliability in picky guns.
don%26#039;t get too carried away with gel-tests because shooting jello is a lot different than shooting a clothed human with bones inside.
also, hornady will be coming out with a similar product so keep your eyes peeled. they already have it in .380 and that%26#039;s what i carry in my little kel-tec!|||Go here for some ballistics data and pictures and ammunition sales.
http://www.topglock.com/category/1644-Am...
----
I run MagSafe JHP 84 Gr in my Glock23(.40cal), they cost around $2 per round.
But Ive ALSO shot ALOT of Lawman FMJ 165Gr ammo, and it fires AWESOME at the range, NEVER a single jam, fires hard but fires smooth....i can feel how perfect it shoots.(V.S. other brands and types)
So if I dont have my JHP homedefense rounds in the gun, I got the Lawman Training ammo....since I KNOW FOR SURE it will fire....and if I somehow miss my target, the muzzleflame will surely give them a heart attack.
9mm is good for penetration and accuracy, but its NOT generally an acceptable stopping round by most police departments,FBI etc,......
They DO make some good rounds for the 9mm, but you need to know what those are..(i dont, since i dont shoot 9mm, I just heard from some people)
If you want stopping power for a pistol, you Atleast want a .40 caliber pistol. Ive run ballistic test myself in the field, and it has incredible penetration and power at close range, and usually has MORE chamber pressure than a .45 caliber.
(well atleast in the Glocks)
Check out that website.|||Hydrashok
http://www.hydrashok.com/news.php|||Hornady TAP FPD|||not to be condescending , but 9mm hollow points , or you could buy just regular 9mm and make a x it the tip , close to the same result, a bigger hole in them.|||As far as I know it%26#039;s only one type of hollow pint for 9mm I don%26#039;t know.
How far does the definition of "self-defense" go until its considered murder?
Read in the paper that a girl tried to kill and rape a girl. When the girl started screaming, the boyfriend came in and killed the guy who tried to kill the girl. Apparently he shot him and then slit his throat? The guy who killed the rapist was charged with murder and the girl was charged with assisting the crime. How far does self defense go in this case?|||Well the answer to this question is simple, but complicated to explain, and somewhat difficult to understand.
People have the right to use force, up to and including deadly force, to STOP someone from injuring or killing someone.
In other words, if someone is trying to injure or kill someone, you are only allowed to use as much force as is necessary to STOP the attack, and NO More. The ONLY time deadly force is allowed is when deadly force is the ONLY thing that will STOP it.
A reasonable person can safely assume, even without hearing the totality of the circumstances, that the boyfriend shooting the rapist was enough to stop the attack on the girl. In that case, since he was able to stop the attack by shooting him, he had no further need to stop him, therefore slitting his throat was unnecessary and constitutes murder (non-premeditated).
Additionally, there could be some question as to whether shooting him was even necessary to stop him. If it can be argued that he could have done anything else other than shooting him to stop the attack, then, as a matter of law, even shooting him was criminal. Again, you%26#039;re only allowed to use that force that is NECESSARY to STOP the injury or death of someone. Shooting him and then slitting his throat constituting murder in this case will hang on whether or not the boyfriend reasonably believed that he had no other option, and NOT whether he reasonably believed he had the right. Mistake of the law and/or personal opinon is not an affirmative defense.|||Maybe slitting his throat went beyond the bounds of self-defense cases. I would think getting shot would have been a sufficient deterrent to ward off the rapist. It%26#039;s up to the jury now. I%26#039;d have to hear all the facts from all sides before giving a better answer.|||Depends on the state. Here in Florida last year they passed a new law, if you feel threatened or feel someone else is threatened you can kill the assailant and not have to worry about facing charges, period. A very good law, I think|||It%26#039;s called reasonable force the boyfriend kind of went over board. Punching the skinhound out would have been suffice. He went way overboard. After the reasonable force he no longer was protecting his girlfriend, however if indeed if it was rape I probably would have hurt him quite badly maybe even enough to kill but i wouldn%26#039;t have shot him and slit his throat. What this really sounds like was this was a set-up. Why would her boyfriend be carrying a firearm and a knife? Almost sounds like this was premeditated from the start boyfriends don%26#039;t carry firearms and knifes without some sort of reason.|||Only as far as your money lasts in the hands of a crooked lawyer.|||first of all to prove self defense you have to prove that they were doing somehing to harm you...like the rapist did...and then it to get a jury to believe it the over kill doesnt help make the case... personally i dont think that they should get tried but it is up to the D.A in that state. if you want more then get the book of the laws for your state|||he used excessive force- he both cut the throat and shot him.
I don%26#039;t know why the girl was charged
People have the right to use force, up to and including deadly force, to STOP someone from injuring or killing someone.
In other words, if someone is trying to injure or kill someone, you are only allowed to use as much force as is necessary to STOP the attack, and NO More. The ONLY time deadly force is allowed is when deadly force is the ONLY thing that will STOP it.
A reasonable person can safely assume, even without hearing the totality of the circumstances, that the boyfriend shooting the rapist was enough to stop the attack on the girl. In that case, since he was able to stop the attack by shooting him, he had no further need to stop him, therefore slitting his throat was unnecessary and constitutes murder (non-premeditated).
Additionally, there could be some question as to whether shooting him was even necessary to stop him. If it can be argued that he could have done anything else other than shooting him to stop the attack, then, as a matter of law, even shooting him was criminal. Again, you%26#039;re only allowed to use that force that is NECESSARY to STOP the injury or death of someone. Shooting him and then slitting his throat constituting murder in this case will hang on whether or not the boyfriend reasonably believed that he had no other option, and NOT whether he reasonably believed he had the right. Mistake of the law and/or personal opinon is not an affirmative defense.|||Maybe slitting his throat went beyond the bounds of self-defense cases. I would think getting shot would have been a sufficient deterrent to ward off the rapist. It%26#039;s up to the jury now. I%26#039;d have to hear all the facts from all sides before giving a better answer.|||Depends on the state. Here in Florida last year they passed a new law, if you feel threatened or feel someone else is threatened you can kill the assailant and not have to worry about facing charges, period. A very good law, I think|||It%26#039;s called reasonable force the boyfriend kind of went over board. Punching the skinhound out would have been suffice. He went way overboard. After the reasonable force he no longer was protecting his girlfriend, however if indeed if it was rape I probably would have hurt him quite badly maybe even enough to kill but i wouldn%26#039;t have shot him and slit his throat. What this really sounds like was this was a set-up. Why would her boyfriend be carrying a firearm and a knife? Almost sounds like this was premeditated from the start boyfriends don%26#039;t carry firearms and knifes without some sort of reason.|||Only as far as your money lasts in the hands of a crooked lawyer.|||first of all to prove self defense you have to prove that they were doing somehing to harm you...like the rapist did...and then it to get a jury to believe it the over kill doesnt help make the case... personally i dont think that they should get tried but it is up to the D.A in that state. if you want more then get the book of the laws for your state|||he used excessive force- he both cut the throat and shot him.
I don%26#039;t know why the girl was charged
What's the name of the self-defense used by the Israel guards based in set of techniques where all is valid?
Hi,
I was told about that but I do not remember the name.
Also would be interesting to read your opinion about if it%26#039;s the best self-defense existing at the moment.
Thanks and regards.|||Krav Maga. It is effective. From what I know about it, it is designed to be easy to learn (a soldier has to be able to learn enough in basic training to be able to use it in a life %26amp; death struggle) but requires top physical conditioning. (something that basic training demands. It%26#039;s good enough for the Sayeret Matkal.|||Do you mean Kav Maga?|||Krav Maga, is quickly growing in the law enforcement field, and it is said to be one of the best self-defense techniques out there.|||Krav maga is the name, it is not the %26quot;best%26quot; martial art. There is no such thing. I have seen its effectiveness, but its not the best to that effect either.|||Krav Maga
try searching online and you will probably find one close to you. it is not the ultimate though, even though it has great ideals.|||Its called Krav Maga. I%26#039;ve heard that the techniques it uses are very practical and easy to learn.|||It is indeed Krav Maga.
It seems to be pretty good. Though they won%26#039;t teach you everything from the %26quot;system%26quot; they teach things specifically to your needs. In order to learn %26quot;lethal%26quot; techniques you need to be a current member of the military and to learn all of the restraints and what not you need to be in security or law enforcement.
The system seems to me to be more of a training system than a style so to speak, it does teach you attacks and defences which what a fighting style is I suppose, but it also encompasses what you already know. In Krav they put you in realistic situations and get you to practice using improvised weapons such as bags, pens, whatever is in the scenario. They set of loud sirens and smoke screens to simulate the chaos of a real situation, there%26#039;s lots of fucus on fighting anywhere and everywhere.
I think it sounds great, but really you could apply this kind of training to any style and any decent martial art teach the %26quot;lethal%26quot; techniques anyway, it%26#039;s a bit of a crock in my opinion if you know the human anotomy and how to hit then anyone can be lethal, I suppose that it%26#039;s mainly to disuade idiots that want to be James Bond.
Well that%26#039;s my 2 cents, in short it%26#039;s worth a look.|||The name is KRAV MAGNA.
It is simply another combination of Judo, Karate, Ju-Jitsu, and boxing plus Escrima stick fighting.|||Krav Maga. (Can%26#039;t believe the first two people spelled it wrong...)
I don%26#039;t know much about it, but it was formed specifically for self-defense and combat. And law enforcement and military use it, so I would think it%26#039;s an extremely effective system.
The only concern I have about krav maga is that it was also formed for combat, and it has quite lethal techniques... so I would recommend that you look up your state%26#039;s self-defense laws and find out what their definition of %26quot;reasonable force%26quot; is. You can easily land in legal hot water if you don%26#039;t know what you%26#039;re doing.|||Krav Maga, read up on it, the history of it is pretty interesting.|||Krav maga... Just thought I would be redundant...:P
I am not a big proponent for picking a particular style of self defense as %26quot;best%26quot;. Many of these particular martial arts have similar linage and history. Don%26#039;t believe the hype in short. The only reason for someone to say theirs is best would be for marketing. Pick a style with some traceable history and proven accreditation%26#039;s. Plus self-defense is only one of the many reasons we are students of the martial arts. My advice is find a school that is geared for self-growth, mind and body.
I was told about that but I do not remember the name.
Also would be interesting to read your opinion about if it%26#039;s the best self-defense existing at the moment.
Thanks and regards.|||Krav Maga. It is effective. From what I know about it, it is designed to be easy to learn (a soldier has to be able to learn enough in basic training to be able to use it in a life %26amp; death struggle) but requires top physical conditioning. (something that basic training demands. It%26#039;s good enough for the Sayeret Matkal.|||Do you mean Kav Maga?|||Krav Maga, is quickly growing in the law enforcement field, and it is said to be one of the best self-defense techniques out there.|||Krav maga is the name, it is not the %26quot;best%26quot; martial art. There is no such thing. I have seen its effectiveness, but its not the best to that effect either.|||Krav Maga
try searching online and you will probably find one close to you. it is not the ultimate though, even though it has great ideals.|||Its called Krav Maga. I%26#039;ve heard that the techniques it uses are very practical and easy to learn.|||It is indeed Krav Maga.
It seems to be pretty good. Though they won%26#039;t teach you everything from the %26quot;system%26quot; they teach things specifically to your needs. In order to learn %26quot;lethal%26quot; techniques you need to be a current member of the military and to learn all of the restraints and what not you need to be in security or law enforcement.
The system seems to me to be more of a training system than a style so to speak, it does teach you attacks and defences which what a fighting style is I suppose, but it also encompasses what you already know. In Krav they put you in realistic situations and get you to practice using improvised weapons such as bags, pens, whatever is in the scenario. They set of loud sirens and smoke screens to simulate the chaos of a real situation, there%26#039;s lots of fucus on fighting anywhere and everywhere.
I think it sounds great, but really you could apply this kind of training to any style and any decent martial art teach the %26quot;lethal%26quot; techniques anyway, it%26#039;s a bit of a crock in my opinion if you know the human anotomy and how to hit then anyone can be lethal, I suppose that it%26#039;s mainly to disuade idiots that want to be James Bond.
Well that%26#039;s my 2 cents, in short it%26#039;s worth a look.|||The name is KRAV MAGNA.
It is simply another combination of Judo, Karate, Ju-Jitsu, and boxing plus Escrima stick fighting.|||Krav Maga. (Can%26#039;t believe the first two people spelled it wrong...)
I don%26#039;t know much about it, but it was formed specifically for self-defense and combat. And law enforcement and military use it, so I would think it%26#039;s an extremely effective system.
The only concern I have about krav maga is that it was also formed for combat, and it has quite lethal techniques... so I would recommend that you look up your state%26#039;s self-defense laws and find out what their definition of %26quot;reasonable force%26quot; is. You can easily land in legal hot water if you don%26#039;t know what you%26#039;re doing.|||Krav Maga, read up on it, the history of it is pretty interesting.|||Krav maga... Just thought I would be redundant...:P
I am not a big proponent for picking a particular style of self defense as %26quot;best%26quot;. Many of these particular martial arts have similar linage and history. Don%26#039;t believe the hype in short. The only reason for someone to say theirs is best would be for marketing. Pick a style with some traceable history and proven accreditation%26#039;s. Plus self-defense is only one of the many reasons we are students of the martial arts. My advice is find a school that is geared for self-growth, mind and body.
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