I%26#039;m writing this in response to the %26quot;zero tolerance%26quot; policies popping up that have any student defending themselves in a physical altercation to be suspended, expelled or even arrested. By what legal authority does a school have to cancel out the right of self-defense which are on the books in states and localities of the USA? The Supreme Court decision of Tinker Vs. Des Moines held that students do not necessarily shed their constitutional freedoms at the schoolyard gate.
Is there a court decision(s) or local/state/federal laws that cancel out a student%26#039;s right to self-defense?|||The criminal defense of %26quot;self-defense%26quot; would still apply in a criminal proceeding, but a school can determine policies at an administrative level that provide sanction and discipline at the school that have nothing to do with criminal defenses like %26quot;self-defense.%26quot;
Schools are not %26quot;corporations%26quot; and are governmental entities. They are, however, given wide latitude to determine their own rules and policies (as indciated by the Supreme Court even)...so defend yourself, but understand that the school is not going to do a trial of your case to determine who was right and who was wrong, they are going to remove anyone they fell does not comply with the policies, guidelines, rules that govern student conduct regardless of the right of self-defense that you can assert if/when you are criminally charged.|||because children%26#039;s rights are different from adults%26#039; rights.|||Students do not give up their constitutional rights when they enter school property. Someone has to challenge this premise so that a precident is set. Otherwise, things will get worse before they get better with all these draconian penalties.|||Unfortunately...most school districts are separate corporations and they have the right to implement any rule they wish.... because the school is not officially a governmental agency, they get away with the zero tolerance rule. It certainly has it%26#039;s flaws.|||I agree. This is so ridiculous.|||This is another fine example of how our school system is out of control. Child #1 is bullied on a daily basis. The school authorities do nothing about it. Child #2 can%26#039;t take it anymore and pops the bully in the chops. Both get suspended.
It gets worse. Boy child looks up girl child%26#039;s skirt and makes nasty comment. Girl child pushes boy child down. When girl child tells the teacher why she pushes boy child down it opens another file called inappropriate sexual behavior and now both boy child and girl child have an %26quot;inappropriate sexual behavior%26quot; strike in their records. Parents are not allowed to see these records.
Sadly, kids are no longer permitted to be kids. We live in a rotten society and our school system is a prime example of what the future holds for all.|||Look it up|||Not only can you not defend yourself, even if you just sit there and let yourself be attacked or even run to a teacher for help, you get suspended just for being the victim. Pretty messed up.|||Right of self defense DOES apply, even at school.
HOWEVER, then the school might expell you for fighting, and you and/or your parents could then sue them for several things including monetary damages AND the right to return to school.
(Did it successfully almost 45 years ago, after a fight got me expelled!!)|||I wasn%26#039;t aware of such a rule.
I%26#039;ve known cases when I worked in a school where students would get into fights which one instigated and the guy sticking up for himself wouldn%26#039;t be in any trouble whatsoever and the other was suspended and the police were involved.
The rules of a school are completely seperate from what applies in a legal setting. You%26#039;re allowed to go around making racist statements as it%26#039;s your 1st amendment right, but if you do it at work they can fire you no questions asked and be in the right doing so.
Friday, November 18, 2011
Which is the best martial art for a beginner to learn for self defense and why?
I am looking to learn martial arts for self defense, increased confidence and a good workout. I do not know much about the different kinds of martial arts or what is good to take. If anyone has any advice that would be great. Also, what is the purpose of the belt system?|||i would recommend brazilian jui-jitsu for self defense since about 90% of fight end up on the ground according to my instructor. if you%26#039;re looking for a good workout, i would recommend kickboxing or taekwondo. the association that i%26#039;m with teaches us these and more (like weapons, forms, self defense, etc.) so if you want to be well rounded i would recommend enrolling with Ernie Reyes World Martial Arts if you have one in your area. purpose of belt system is ranking: longer you go, higher belt level you get.
Good Luck!|||Nothing against BJJ, but I find that the idea of always going to the ground leaves you open to attack from a second attacker..... Yes, many fights go to the ground, but that does not mean that Iwould want to expose my back unless it is necessary. Report Abuse
|||I agree with the above. In a street fight going to the ground will end up with you getting a boot to the head. I have been around a number of these fights. People gang up on you, they use weapons (a friend was hit with a tire iron), and they use moves that no instructor will teach you. Report Abuse
|||The best will be the one that you actually can stick with for a while.
Meaning, something that keeps you interested, that you can afford, and is close enough that you show up to every class.
If you want a good workout, you have a plethora of options. Ride a bike, run, jump rope, lift weights. Any decent gym, regardless of style, will give you a good workout.
For self defense, the best thing you can learn is not physical at all; situational awareness. If you are observant, you can learn to defuse or avoid situations before they become violent. Even when they do, the best defense is usually to run away.
Now if you mean the best way to fight, well that%26#039;s a different thing altogether. Everyone will tell you a specific style, but there is no best. There are too many variables. How many people are you fighting, do they have weapons, how much space do you have, are you trying to cause as much damage as possible or to minimize the damage you take. Besides the fact that different styles will be more suitable for different body types.
Look up all the gyms in your area, try to find some reviews, and then go and check it out. Pretty much everywhere they will let you sit in on a class or two, and you can see if it%26#039;s the right fit.|||To learn how to strike I recommend spending several months at a boxing gym or a Muay Thai gym. Muay Thai is kickboxing plus knees and elbows. Once you have striking down, take Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Judo. Those are grappling sports. If you only take striking lessons then a wrestler will destroy you in a fight. Trust me, I used to take Kempo, but then I got in a fight with a wrestler who took me down and just railed on me. Now i take Jiu Jitsu, and I guarantee you there is no way in hell he could ever do that to me again.
Also consider Krav Maga, I%26#039;d say in terms of practical self defense it is unmatched. I%26#039;ve never taken it so I can%26#039;t say whether its good for schoolyard bully defense / rival alpha male at a party type fighting, but it might be. You should check it out and see if you like it, it really is one of the most dangerous martial arts out there.|||There is no best style really. Its far more about the skill of the instructor and the amount of effort you put in to it. All styles have their strengths and weaknesses you just have to look around and find a school with a good and respectable instructor, then put your effort in to learning it.
Personally, I recomend Karate...but I am partial of course. I just think that Karate is a good well rounded style. It has a wide variety of kinds of techniques...striking, grappling, etc. Its a great style for your Base style...then go on to something more specialized if you want to. And for self defense its very useful if you get a good instructor. Lets face it....its been around for longer than almost any styles.... it wouldn%26#039;t have stayed popular if it wasn%26#039;t useful.|||no best martial art which someoen can tell you here. its all about which one you like most. if you hate bjj its not going to be very effective if you learn it because you wont try as hard or really care.|||Royce Gracie showed the world that Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is the best form of self defense. Belt system is a ranking system based on level of skill
Good Luck!|||Nothing against BJJ, but I find that the idea of always going to the ground leaves you open to attack from a second attacker..... Yes, many fights go to the ground, but that does not mean that Iwould want to expose my back unless it is necessary. Report Abuse
|||I agree with the above. In a street fight going to the ground will end up with you getting a boot to the head. I have been around a number of these fights. People gang up on you, they use weapons (a friend was hit with a tire iron), and they use moves that no instructor will teach you. Report Abuse
|||The best will be the one that you actually can stick with for a while.
Meaning, something that keeps you interested, that you can afford, and is close enough that you show up to every class.
If you want a good workout, you have a plethora of options. Ride a bike, run, jump rope, lift weights. Any decent gym, regardless of style, will give you a good workout.
For self defense, the best thing you can learn is not physical at all; situational awareness. If you are observant, you can learn to defuse or avoid situations before they become violent. Even when they do, the best defense is usually to run away.
Now if you mean the best way to fight, well that%26#039;s a different thing altogether. Everyone will tell you a specific style, but there is no best. There are too many variables. How many people are you fighting, do they have weapons, how much space do you have, are you trying to cause as much damage as possible or to minimize the damage you take. Besides the fact that different styles will be more suitable for different body types.
Look up all the gyms in your area, try to find some reviews, and then go and check it out. Pretty much everywhere they will let you sit in on a class or two, and you can see if it%26#039;s the right fit.|||To learn how to strike I recommend spending several months at a boxing gym or a Muay Thai gym. Muay Thai is kickboxing plus knees and elbows. Once you have striking down, take Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Judo. Those are grappling sports. If you only take striking lessons then a wrestler will destroy you in a fight. Trust me, I used to take Kempo, but then I got in a fight with a wrestler who took me down and just railed on me. Now i take Jiu Jitsu, and I guarantee you there is no way in hell he could ever do that to me again.
Also consider Krav Maga, I%26#039;d say in terms of practical self defense it is unmatched. I%26#039;ve never taken it so I can%26#039;t say whether its good for schoolyard bully defense / rival alpha male at a party type fighting, but it might be. You should check it out and see if you like it, it really is one of the most dangerous martial arts out there.|||There is no best style really. Its far more about the skill of the instructor and the amount of effort you put in to it. All styles have their strengths and weaknesses you just have to look around and find a school with a good and respectable instructor, then put your effort in to learning it.
Personally, I recomend Karate...but I am partial of course. I just think that Karate is a good well rounded style. It has a wide variety of kinds of techniques...striking, grappling, etc. Its a great style for your Base style...then go on to something more specialized if you want to. And for self defense its very useful if you get a good instructor. Lets face it....its been around for longer than almost any styles.... it wouldn%26#039;t have stayed popular if it wasn%26#039;t useful.|||no best martial art which someoen can tell you here. its all about which one you like most. if you hate bjj its not going to be very effective if you learn it because you wont try as hard or really care.|||Royce Gracie showed the world that Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is the best form of self defense. Belt system is a ranking system based on level of skill
What is the best self defense out there?
Is capoeira is a good self defense art and if it is explain how.|||nijitsu - nija karatae is the best...unstopable|||Superior fire power.|||judo
Judon%26#039;t know i got a gun
Judon%26#039;t know i got a knife|||Okay, keep in mind that self defense is different that fighting. Traditional martial arts were developed with the idea of use in combat, in warfare and in a society where the culture and technology is not what it is today. Many, (but not all) modern martial arts are developed as a sport, with uniforms, safety gear and a ring.
Don%26#039;t get me wrong, a good martial artist can normally take care of him or herself in a street situation. But you have to have a very high level of dedication and commitment and years of training to use it effectively. There is nothing wrong with that and lot good things there, but it is not self defense.
Self defense starts out very simple. Awareness and avoidance. You need to become observant of your surroundings at all times, it must become a habit. You should always be looking for the “out” if something looks threatening to you. Next you have to learn to put your ego aside. If a place has known threats, simply don’t go there if you can avoid it. This is especially difficult for young men to do. But if self defense is your real goal, and not being macho, then embrace this philosophy.
There is a great deal more to self defense. I would estimate that 80% to 85% of effective self defense is simply not allowing yourself to be in a position to become a victim. However the other 15% to 20%, is the physical part and that will take up the vast bulk of your energy and training time. Self defense techniques are simple, brutal and effective. There is nothing flashy, nothing fancy. The honestly don’t take all that long to learn the technique, but learning the concept behind them and learning to apply them is a different story all together.
Good luck!|||no if its a girl, givin a titt twister.
if its a guy give him a kick to the nuts, or nut twister.
Judon%26#039;t know i got a gun
Judon%26#039;t know i got a knife|||Okay, keep in mind that self defense is different that fighting. Traditional martial arts were developed with the idea of use in combat, in warfare and in a society where the culture and technology is not what it is today. Many, (but not all) modern martial arts are developed as a sport, with uniforms, safety gear and a ring.
Don%26#039;t get me wrong, a good martial artist can normally take care of him or herself in a street situation. But you have to have a very high level of dedication and commitment and years of training to use it effectively. There is nothing wrong with that and lot good things there, but it is not self defense.
Self defense starts out very simple. Awareness and avoidance. You need to become observant of your surroundings at all times, it must become a habit. You should always be looking for the “out” if something looks threatening to you. Next you have to learn to put your ego aside. If a place has known threats, simply don’t go there if you can avoid it. This is especially difficult for young men to do. But if self defense is your real goal, and not being macho, then embrace this philosophy.
There is a great deal more to self defense. I would estimate that 80% to 85% of effective self defense is simply not allowing yourself to be in a position to become a victim. However the other 15% to 20%, is the physical part and that will take up the vast bulk of your energy and training time. Self defense techniques are simple, brutal and effective. There is nothing flashy, nothing fancy. The honestly don’t take all that long to learn the technique, but learning the concept behind them and learning to apply them is a different story all together.
Good luck!|||no if its a girl, givin a titt twister.
if its a guy give him a kick to the nuts, or nut twister.
Is it illegal to own a taser and use it for self-defense?
I have two questions about tasers.
1. Is it illegal to own a taser? I live in California, if that matters.
2. If you own a taser and use it on someone who%26#039;s, for example, mugging or beating you (in other words, self-defense), is that legal?|||Check out this link to your state%26#039;s web site for Dangerous Weapons Control Laws.
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/dwcl/in...
After a brief glance at the page it looks like you have to get a special permit to have anything more dangerous than a pair of nail clippers.|||Well I have not lived in Calif. for about 3 years now but at that time it was legal to buy one so using it must have been legal too ! If the law has changed and it is now illegal who cares it still beats getting Robbed,Beat up or Raped! at least I know I personally would be happy to pay a fine knowing I had stopped some jerk dead in his tracks lol|||I think you need a sort of permit allowing you using that thing. Meaning, since some guys walk down the street with guns it also could be possible/legal to do the same with tasers. But it can be counted as an illegal act if you get checked by the police and they discover it while you don%26#039;t have any papers for it. Somebody can rob others with that thing you know. Anyway why don%26#039;t you research it by yourself a bit.
www.leginfo.ca.gov/
Good luck and try not to hurt somebody witht that thing!|||it is illegal considered a gun|||well, I know that tasers and stun guns should be legal for self-defense but in N.Y. the only legal self defense weapon is pepper spray; which I think is totally ridiculous seeings how most criminals have knives, guns, or clubs.
1. Is it illegal to own a taser? I live in California, if that matters.
2. If you own a taser and use it on someone who%26#039;s, for example, mugging or beating you (in other words, self-defense), is that legal?|||Check out this link to your state%26#039;s web site for Dangerous Weapons Control Laws.
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/dwcl/in...
After a brief glance at the page it looks like you have to get a special permit to have anything more dangerous than a pair of nail clippers.|||Well I have not lived in Calif. for about 3 years now but at that time it was legal to buy one so using it must have been legal too ! If the law has changed and it is now illegal who cares it still beats getting Robbed,Beat up or Raped! at least I know I personally would be happy to pay a fine knowing I had stopped some jerk dead in his tracks lol|||I think you need a sort of permit allowing you using that thing. Meaning, since some guys walk down the street with guns it also could be possible/legal to do the same with tasers. But it can be counted as an illegal act if you get checked by the police and they discover it while you don%26#039;t have any papers for it. Somebody can rob others with that thing you know. Anyway why don%26#039;t you research it by yourself a bit.
www.leginfo.ca.gov/
Good luck and try not to hurt somebody witht that thing!|||it is illegal considered a gun|||well, I know that tasers and stun guns should be legal for self-defense but in N.Y. the only legal self defense weapon is pepper spray; which I think is totally ridiculous seeings how most criminals have knives, guns, or clubs.
What is the best marital art for self-defense?
I%26#039;m thinking of taking a martial art for self defense, having a wife and 10-month old at home. Which one would be the best? I think I%26#039;ve narrowed it down to Tae Kwon Do, Karate, or Kung-Fu. Is it best to take one of these that emphasizes standing, so that a group could be taken on vs. something like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, where going to the ground is emphasized?|||With the exception of a few on here almost everybody will tell you the style they train or the %26quot;ufc%26quot; style, which is MMA, even if they don%26#039;t activly train in anything.
The fact is that people don%26#039;t take into consideration that not every style is reperesented every where. maybe the ones you mentioned are the only ones available where you live.
There are many styles of both karate and Kung Fu, and each is slightly different, or focuses on a different aspect. Many now days are taught more as a sport.
Far more important then which of these styles you should take is which school should you attend. The instruction you get, how you train, and what you put into it are far more important then anything else. A person from a good karate school will beat a person from a so so MMA school. it%26#039;s all in the training.
There are many questions with good answers on the subject of finding a good school and instructor, you should just search them and find out what to look for and what to ask of the instructor.
Too many people are hung up on style, but in the end the style will not defend you, you will.
Edit for Brodie- i definetly think that krav is a good style, but unfortunatly what is mostly taught in this country is a pale comparison to the real stuff. As for karate being a sport and having rules, yes some do, but many do not, particurly the Okinawin versions.|||As usual the arm chair warriors don%26#039;t know anything about traditional martial arts. Speaking from experience almost all styles of authentic Okinawan Karate %26amp; Kenpo teach you to fight on the street. Japanese styles of Karate are more sport oriented, but are also pretty good for street defense. Also Japanese Jujitsu is good.
I would also recommend Muay Thai, even though it is more sport oriented, the low kicks, knees, and elbow strikes are just as brutal on the street as in the ring.|||any stand up ma(including boxing) is better than going to the ground.only a fool would go to the ground in a real fight.
try the 3 you suggested and settle on which one is best for you.personally i would go with karate as its more practicle than the other 2.freestyle karate would be the most practicle self defence style.it will teach you stand up,ground/grappling and weapons.
EDIT.most karate,s will teach you in a real fight there are no rules and will teach you the dirty tricks and how to use them quickly and successfully.|||To be able to defend yourself in a short time, you want to learn an art that you can grasp quickly and build on, and that you can employ on the street - not to necessarily knock out ten people - but maybe just to ward of attackers and buy some time
Taekwondo except at high levels is not street practical, and when you say kung fu, thats a whole world and l dont know which style you plan to practice.
So ld recommend karate - or better still muay or jeet kun do
on the especially if there are several attackers, you dont want to get into grappling...too vulnerable. you want to hit hard and fast and get the hell outta there.
So from your choices, ld grudgingly go for karate, but no matter what you learn, always think through what really works cos when you need to use it, a lot of flowery moves learnt by a lot of people are dangerously innefective
cheers|||Certainly training in martial arts will be helpful to develop skills and spirit but bear in mind that in a real self defence situation most of the things you will learn such as spinning fly back kick and whatever else fancy move, goes in the basket when you are facing a much larger and meaner opponent and you are afraid for your life.
I train in kung fu, but not based only on the traditional stuff, our teacher also incorporates western techniques and trains our box punches , jabs, hooks, turning kicks. What he says, is what I mentioned before, in a street fight you will use your basic techniques and awareness developed from the martial arts training, instead of all those flash movements you see in movies.
I also know something called %26#039;%26#039;Closed Combat training%26#039;%26#039; by captain Chris a former navy seals officer who has learned techniques for effective self defense from veterans of the Second world War, aiming to train normal people how to protect their selves in a very difficult situation. I didn%26#039;t have the chance to buy the programme yet, but it seems to be very promising and the information in the newsletters is valuable.
You can check it out:
http://www.CloseCombatTraining.com/cctra...|||I would research KRAV-MAGA.
I have taken Krav and enjoyed it. It is strictly self-defense (what you are looking for), and invented by the Israelian Armed Forces.
Not putting Karate, etc down but yes they show you how to fight and protect yourself...but for a competition (i.e All legal moves, how to get a guy to submit to gain points).
Krav Maga is not a sport..it helps you inflict pain fast to get out of a situation (groin shots, disarm someone with a knife/gun, what to do if you get jumped/choked,etc...dirty but effective..aka real self defense). When you think about it, if you are looking for realistic self0defense..a fight out in the street or with a robber doesn%26#039;t start with bowing in respect..usually it%26#039;s a sucker punch.
Krav was also developed to be easily taught. Once again..just my opinion..but I would look into it.|||I would recommend that you take Wing Chun, Jeet Kun Do, or Krav Maga for practical self defense. Most karate, taekwondo, and kung fu styles are inadequate for practical self defense. Wing Chun, Jeet Kun Do, and Krav Maga are great to know when you experience Hick%26#039;s Law and your mind goes into the fight or flight response.|||The best martial arts for self-defense:
1. Any style of Japanese Jiu-Jitsu
2. Most styles of Chinese Kung fu
3. Several styles of Okinawan and Japanese Karate.
Avoid the ring fighting styles such as: BJJ or MMA. And avoid the blue gi styles of jiu jitsu.|||i have experience in martial arts and i can say tae kwon do or kung fu is going to be pretty hard to pull off in almost all situations...karate...is ok...
if you want something you can do on the street i would reccomend judo and muay thai
even better, find a mixed martial arts dojo, they work the best of everything realistic for a street fight in.
have you seen ufc? kung fu would die!!!|||The best style is the one that you will stick with long enough to become proficient. This is why we continue to encourage people to try out a few clubs for making any commitment. There really is no %26quot;best%26quot; style.
The best style for you is the one you will practice at least 3 times a week. Seek out the best school for you and the best teacher for you. The rest will fall into place.|||I would stay away from tkd and kung fu. Kenpo has a good hand techniques along with some throws and joint locks. Muay Tai Kick Boxing is really effective, but your best bet is to do MMA. You need to cover all aspects of fighting. Since most fights end up on the ground you do need to learn ground fighting along with stand up. Your best bet is to go to different studios and watch the classes. Check out the instructors how they teach and even take some Introductory lessons and then decide what fits you best.
Good Luck and have fun!!|||So long as you look great doing it who cares right!?
in all seriousness, fighting dirty is probably most successfully used method out there, the trick is in the run! you just Kick and run!!!
I hope this has helped you!|||My personal favorite is joint locking %26amp; joint breaking. It%26#039;s focused, easy to learn and deadly effective in street self defense and similar situations.|||I prefer kajukenbo.|||mixed martial arts!!!! they use it in u.f.c ... its basically street fighting!|||Go ahead and pick one and see if it%26#039;s right for you.|||Katana172 has a great answer. One that you will get from those with vast MA experience, usually high level instructors.
All of the Martial Arts can be used for self defense. That is the reason that they were created. How well they work depends on the individual, and even more so on the Instructor. Quality Martial Arts will always be more beneficial that poor anything.
As for choosing a style, I can tell you from intimate experience about Kung Fu. I am less familiar with TKD and Karate, but I know them to be quality Martial Arts IF you find a good school/instructor.
Kung Fu: Almost All people who tell you that Kung Fu does not work, has not had any experience with it, and is only regurgitating that which they have heard from others doing the same thing. Very few people will put forth the effort required to learn KF. There are many styles of Kung Fu, ranging from crap to spectacular finds. The style that I am learning (and teaching) is Seven Star Preying Mantis Kung Fu.
Kung Fu has been around longer than most other forms of MA, in fact many of the popular MA%26#039;s today were derived from Kung Fu. It has been polished over the many many years by many great Martial Artists. As a general rule, it will take you longer to get %26quot;good%26quot; at KF, but you will continue to get better for as long as you practice. Once you get your black belt (at my school approx 3 - 3.5 years if you work hard) you will be proficient at protecting yourself in most situations. From that point you begin to learn the more difficult aspects of KF, and what to do when you come up against another Martial Artist. This is when you move past self defense, and into the Art of fighting. It is in this time when your skill will grow faster and faster.
My Art is a complete one, with Strikes, Kicks, throws, joint locks (Chin Na), center control, grappling and ground fighting.
Choosing an Art:
Choosing a Martial Art can be overwhelming because you want to do the best one and be the best at it. The first goal is not possible, the second one is. First step is finding the school for you. Go visit each that you mentioned. Talk to the students and instructor(s). Get a feel for the people, as they will end up very very close friends. Ask a bunch of questions. Don%26#039;t worry about thinking that you have dumb questions. They should be ready and willing to answer any and all of your questions in a professional way. Arrogant people is a tell-tell sign of poor Martial Arts, reguardless of style. Ask about their lineage, how long they have been teaching, how long the head instructor has been doing MA, and about how many students are in any given class.
End result: Go visit and go with your gut instinct. If you see it and think that it is for you, go for it. You will not regret it.
Good Luck
The fact is that people don%26#039;t take into consideration that not every style is reperesented every where. maybe the ones you mentioned are the only ones available where you live.
There are many styles of both karate and Kung Fu, and each is slightly different, or focuses on a different aspect. Many now days are taught more as a sport.
Far more important then which of these styles you should take is which school should you attend. The instruction you get, how you train, and what you put into it are far more important then anything else. A person from a good karate school will beat a person from a so so MMA school. it%26#039;s all in the training.
There are many questions with good answers on the subject of finding a good school and instructor, you should just search them and find out what to look for and what to ask of the instructor.
Too many people are hung up on style, but in the end the style will not defend you, you will.
Edit for Brodie- i definetly think that krav is a good style, but unfortunatly what is mostly taught in this country is a pale comparison to the real stuff. As for karate being a sport and having rules, yes some do, but many do not, particurly the Okinawin versions.|||As usual the arm chair warriors don%26#039;t know anything about traditional martial arts. Speaking from experience almost all styles of authentic Okinawan Karate %26amp; Kenpo teach you to fight on the street. Japanese styles of Karate are more sport oriented, but are also pretty good for street defense. Also Japanese Jujitsu is good.
I would also recommend Muay Thai, even though it is more sport oriented, the low kicks, knees, and elbow strikes are just as brutal on the street as in the ring.|||any stand up ma(including boxing) is better than going to the ground.only a fool would go to the ground in a real fight.
try the 3 you suggested and settle on which one is best for you.personally i would go with karate as its more practicle than the other 2.freestyle karate would be the most practicle self defence style.it will teach you stand up,ground/grappling and weapons.
EDIT.most karate,s will teach you in a real fight there are no rules and will teach you the dirty tricks and how to use them quickly and successfully.|||To be able to defend yourself in a short time, you want to learn an art that you can grasp quickly and build on, and that you can employ on the street - not to necessarily knock out ten people - but maybe just to ward of attackers and buy some time
Taekwondo except at high levels is not street practical, and when you say kung fu, thats a whole world and l dont know which style you plan to practice.
So ld recommend karate - or better still muay or jeet kun do
on the especially if there are several attackers, you dont want to get into grappling...too vulnerable. you want to hit hard and fast and get the hell outta there.
So from your choices, ld grudgingly go for karate, but no matter what you learn, always think through what really works cos when you need to use it, a lot of flowery moves learnt by a lot of people are dangerously innefective
cheers|||Certainly training in martial arts will be helpful to develop skills and spirit but bear in mind that in a real self defence situation most of the things you will learn such as spinning fly back kick and whatever else fancy move, goes in the basket when you are facing a much larger and meaner opponent and you are afraid for your life.
I train in kung fu, but not based only on the traditional stuff, our teacher also incorporates western techniques and trains our box punches , jabs, hooks, turning kicks. What he says, is what I mentioned before, in a street fight you will use your basic techniques and awareness developed from the martial arts training, instead of all those flash movements you see in movies.
I also know something called %26#039;%26#039;Closed Combat training%26#039;%26#039; by captain Chris a former navy seals officer who has learned techniques for effective self defense from veterans of the Second world War, aiming to train normal people how to protect their selves in a very difficult situation. I didn%26#039;t have the chance to buy the programme yet, but it seems to be very promising and the information in the newsletters is valuable.
You can check it out:
http://www.CloseCombatTraining.com/cctra...|||I would research KRAV-MAGA.
I have taken Krav and enjoyed it. It is strictly self-defense (what you are looking for), and invented by the Israelian Armed Forces.
Not putting Karate, etc down but yes they show you how to fight and protect yourself...but for a competition (i.e All legal moves, how to get a guy to submit to gain points).
Krav Maga is not a sport..it helps you inflict pain fast to get out of a situation (groin shots, disarm someone with a knife/gun, what to do if you get jumped/choked,etc...dirty but effective..aka real self defense). When you think about it, if you are looking for realistic self0defense..a fight out in the street or with a robber doesn%26#039;t start with bowing in respect..usually it%26#039;s a sucker punch.
Krav was also developed to be easily taught. Once again..just my opinion..but I would look into it.|||I would recommend that you take Wing Chun, Jeet Kun Do, or Krav Maga for practical self defense. Most karate, taekwondo, and kung fu styles are inadequate for practical self defense. Wing Chun, Jeet Kun Do, and Krav Maga are great to know when you experience Hick%26#039;s Law and your mind goes into the fight or flight response.|||The best martial arts for self-defense:
1. Any style of Japanese Jiu-Jitsu
2. Most styles of Chinese Kung fu
3. Several styles of Okinawan and Japanese Karate.
Avoid the ring fighting styles such as: BJJ or MMA. And avoid the blue gi styles of jiu jitsu.|||i have experience in martial arts and i can say tae kwon do or kung fu is going to be pretty hard to pull off in almost all situations...karate...is ok...
if you want something you can do on the street i would reccomend judo and muay thai
even better, find a mixed martial arts dojo, they work the best of everything realistic for a street fight in.
have you seen ufc? kung fu would die!!!|||The best style is the one that you will stick with long enough to become proficient. This is why we continue to encourage people to try out a few clubs for making any commitment. There really is no %26quot;best%26quot; style.
The best style for you is the one you will practice at least 3 times a week. Seek out the best school for you and the best teacher for you. The rest will fall into place.|||I would stay away from tkd and kung fu. Kenpo has a good hand techniques along with some throws and joint locks. Muay Tai Kick Boxing is really effective, but your best bet is to do MMA. You need to cover all aspects of fighting. Since most fights end up on the ground you do need to learn ground fighting along with stand up. Your best bet is to go to different studios and watch the classes. Check out the instructors how they teach and even take some Introductory lessons and then decide what fits you best.
Good Luck and have fun!!|||So long as you look great doing it who cares right!?
in all seriousness, fighting dirty is probably most successfully used method out there, the trick is in the run! you just Kick and run!!!
I hope this has helped you!|||My personal favorite is joint locking %26amp; joint breaking. It%26#039;s focused, easy to learn and deadly effective in street self defense and similar situations.|||I prefer kajukenbo.|||mixed martial arts!!!! they use it in u.f.c ... its basically street fighting!|||Go ahead and pick one and see if it%26#039;s right for you.|||Katana172 has a great answer. One that you will get from those with vast MA experience, usually high level instructors.
All of the Martial Arts can be used for self defense. That is the reason that they were created. How well they work depends on the individual, and even more so on the Instructor. Quality Martial Arts will always be more beneficial that poor anything.
As for choosing a style, I can tell you from intimate experience about Kung Fu. I am less familiar with TKD and Karate, but I know them to be quality Martial Arts IF you find a good school/instructor.
Kung Fu: Almost All people who tell you that Kung Fu does not work, has not had any experience with it, and is only regurgitating that which they have heard from others doing the same thing. Very few people will put forth the effort required to learn KF. There are many styles of Kung Fu, ranging from crap to spectacular finds. The style that I am learning (and teaching) is Seven Star Preying Mantis Kung Fu.
Kung Fu has been around longer than most other forms of MA, in fact many of the popular MA%26#039;s today were derived from Kung Fu. It has been polished over the many many years by many great Martial Artists. As a general rule, it will take you longer to get %26quot;good%26quot; at KF, but you will continue to get better for as long as you practice. Once you get your black belt (at my school approx 3 - 3.5 years if you work hard) you will be proficient at protecting yourself in most situations. From that point you begin to learn the more difficult aspects of KF, and what to do when you come up against another Martial Artist. This is when you move past self defense, and into the Art of fighting. It is in this time when your skill will grow faster and faster.
My Art is a complete one, with Strikes, Kicks, throws, joint locks (Chin Na), center control, grappling and ground fighting.
Choosing an Art:
Choosing a Martial Art can be overwhelming because you want to do the best one and be the best at it. The first goal is not possible, the second one is. First step is finding the school for you. Go visit each that you mentioned. Talk to the students and instructor(s). Get a feel for the people, as they will end up very very close friends. Ask a bunch of questions. Don%26#039;t worry about thinking that you have dumb questions. They should be ready and willing to answer any and all of your questions in a professional way. Arrogant people is a tell-tell sign of poor Martial Arts, reguardless of style. Ask about their lineage, how long they have been teaching, how long the head instructor has been doing MA, and about how many students are in any given class.
End result: Go visit and go with your gut instinct. If you see it and think that it is for you, go for it. You will not regret it.
Good Luck
What if you killed someone in self defense?
Im christian and i have always thought....What if you killed someone in self defense would god be mad?|||%26quot;Thou shalt not kill%26quot;
%26quot;Turn ye other cheek%26quot;
%26quot;Be ye meek%26quot;
nothing about self defense there.|||Christianity is too contridicting. The old testement states %26quot;eye for an eye.%26quot; The new testement states %26quot;turn the other cheek.%26quot; I guess you should listen to the new information. God probably would be mad, but most people died from religious wars than anything else, so if there is a God, he should understand self-defense. Okay that was a snyde remark. I hear that death is something that people should be okay with so self-defense is probably supposed to be bad since it is not turning the other cheek.|||It is like defending ones country, to defend ones self, is it not? Imagine what the world would be like today if we had not have %26#039;defended ourselves%26#039; in WW2! I have pondered you question before to come up with that logic, but the bible says not to %26#039;murder%26#039; - kill is a bad translation, so defending yourself is not murdering someone, is it?|||I can%26#039;t answer for God.. But I think that if you tried to avoid the situation.. if you didn%26#039;t put yourself in a situation where this was likely to happen. That you were attacked without reason.. Then God would probably not hold it against you. If you could have gotten out of the situation without killing.. If you could have avoided this entirely.. but choose not to, then I suspect you would be judged for your actions.. |||I%26#039;m a christian too, and that%26#039;s something that I also think about. I personally think though, that I%26#039;d be okay. I don%26#039;t think that it is considered murder, you are just trying to protect yourself. |||jesus said turn the other cheek, if you die your in a better place any way but if you do hit back in self defence and kill them i think you might do alright in gods book|||didn%26#039;t he say %26quot;an eye for an eye%26quot;? I don%26#039;t think he%26#039;d be mad that someone killed in self defense. |||then that means you killed someone in self-defense. |||I don%26#039;t believe so. Would you get mad if one of your children killed some in self defense?|||Not if that was the only option.|||no
%26quot;Turn ye other cheek%26quot;
%26quot;Be ye meek%26quot;
nothing about self defense there.|||Christianity is too contridicting. The old testement states %26quot;eye for an eye.%26quot; The new testement states %26quot;turn the other cheek.%26quot; I guess you should listen to the new information. God probably would be mad, but most people died from religious wars than anything else, so if there is a God, he should understand self-defense. Okay that was a snyde remark. I hear that death is something that people should be okay with so self-defense is probably supposed to be bad since it is not turning the other cheek.|||It is like defending ones country, to defend ones self, is it not? Imagine what the world would be like today if we had not have %26#039;defended ourselves%26#039; in WW2! I have pondered you question before to come up with that logic, but the bible says not to %26#039;murder%26#039; - kill is a bad translation, so defending yourself is not murdering someone, is it?|||I can%26#039;t answer for God.. But I think that if you tried to avoid the situation.. if you didn%26#039;t put yourself in a situation where this was likely to happen. That you were attacked without reason.. Then God would probably not hold it against you. If you could have gotten out of the situation without killing.. If you could have avoided this entirely.. but choose not to, then I suspect you would be judged for your actions.. |||I%26#039;m a christian too, and that%26#039;s something that I also think about. I personally think though, that I%26#039;d be okay. I don%26#039;t think that it is considered murder, you are just trying to protect yourself. |||jesus said turn the other cheek, if you die your in a better place any way but if you do hit back in self defence and kill them i think you might do alright in gods book|||didn%26#039;t he say %26quot;an eye for an eye%26quot;? I don%26#039;t think he%26#039;d be mad that someone killed in self defense. |||then that means you killed someone in self-defense. |||I don%26#039;t believe so. Would you get mad if one of your children killed some in self defense?|||Not if that was the only option.|||no
What is the kind of self-defense fitted to kids?
Whoa! here i am again, i already asked a question yesterday, please helpme. . . my research paper is to be passed on thursday! please help me get an answer fast. . . what type of self defense could be applied to kids for them to be able to defend themselves?|||Pretty much all of the common martial arts have programs for young children, usually starting at age 5. Kung Fu and Karate are the two best. If you can find a Ninjitsu instructor, sign up immediately. Real Ninjitsu instructors aren%26#039;t easy to find. Also, make sure that the program includes Tai-Chi lessons, as those are the self control exercises.|||Martial arts are definitely a self-defense for all children. Most instructors will take on a child of any age as long as they can comprehend what they are doing. I%26#039;ve actually watched a class of little ones and they seemed to have fun participating even if they didn%26#039;t understand some of the stuff.|||Martial Arts cant help as much as just practicing hitting that punching bag 15 min a day.|||Fat kids are harder to kidnap so i%26#039;d say fat|||Tae Kwon Do is a Korean Martial Art I can recommend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tae_kwon_do
for children taekwondo is an Olympic sport|||yell,scratch,kick,bite poke with any thing sharp pencil,pen and so on..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tae_kwon_do
for children taekwondo is an Olympic sport|||yell,scratch,kick,bite poke with any thing sharp pencil,pen and so on..
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